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dsl si dost vseobecnu otazku ,normalne na ceste ta moze kontrolovat 28 dni do zadu, dalej kto a kde ti schce dat pokutu a zalezi o kolko si ten cas prekrocil,lebo to mozes mat velmi zavazne porusenie predpisov

Na toto som sa pytal, lebo

Na toto som sa pytal, lebo mam s tym skusenost. 28 dni je podla nar. eu č. 561/2006 na dokladovanie činnosti vodiča, napr na predloženie dovolenkových listkov, výtlačkov z tachografu... ALe pokuta za priestupok sa rieši podľa pristupkového zákona krajiny a podla sankcii podla 561. Takže napr. na slovensku pokutuju do jedneho roka a potom je priestupok zamlčaný ak do roka sa o nom spravny organ nezacal konat. Niekde je to az 3 roky.

Presne ako píšeš. Skoro

Presne ako píšeš. Skoro každý má predstavu, že keď sa kontroluje 28 dní, tak keď je na karte nejaký "problém", tak že PO týchto 28 dňoch je za vodou. Je to hlúposť.
My sme mali špeciálne školenie a tam nám policajný komisár zo Stuttgartu rozprával, že dokonca aj keď by niekto predal niekomu inému ten kamion a tachograf tam samozrejme zostáva........ tak aj po niekoľkých rokoch môže prísť pokuta aj z druhého konca europy. Nezaplatíš, tak to bude súd riešiť. Otázka je, či sa nejakému policajtovi bude chcieť niekoho hľadať za 5 min prešvihnutej jazdy. To by musel byť nejaký závažný priestupok.
Aj jazdenie BEZ karty sa dá dohľadať. U NIEKOHO si zamestnaný a TEN musí mať evidenciu KDE to auto bolo a KTO na ňom jazdil.
Môj kolega bol na dovolenke 3 týždne, medzitým jazdil iný šofér a teraz pri kontrole v REIMS našli francúzi 5h jazdy bez karty. Kolega bol už preto aj na súde v Paríži.
Samozrejme nehovorím o tom, že vyfasoval niekoľkotisícovú pokutu na mieste, ktorú zaplatila firma. Pretože tento vodič za to nemohol.
V roku 2016 začnú postupne prichádzať Wi-Fi tachografy, takže ale do nejakých 5 rokov sa to vymení ako kartové za kolečkové.
Ďalšia vec, Nemci budujú sieť radarov pre kamiony. 80km/h je povolených, tolerancia max. 86km/h.
Takže páni ............ sranda sa končí. Kto bude jazdiť cez 561ku a cez 86 po Nemecku ........... nedoplatí sa.
POZOR !!!
Vysvetloval nám, že za KAŽDÉ prekročenie vyfasneme pokutu.
Čiže keď v priebehu napr 3 hodín jazdy prekročím 86km/h X krát, tak je to sadzba pokuty krát to X. :-)

Toto je zaujímavá

Toto je zaujímavá informácia. Platí to aj pre diaľnice,či len pre bundesky? Nerád by som platil,keď sa tomu môžem vyhnúť aj keď občas sa človek pozabudne. Aj teraz ma na bundeske odfotil radar. Išiel som 84 km/h na 80tke.Som zvedavý,či príde fotka.

Tak to bude pekná pokuta!!!

Tak to bude pekná pokuta!!! V nemecku na bundeske na kamione MAXIMALNE 60km/h, toleruje 66km/h! Ja som v roku 2012 na bundeske zaplatil za 83km/h 100 euro a dva body. A to mi ešte tvrdil, že som dostal pokutu v dolnej hranici!!!

PO týchto 28 dňoch je za vodou. Je to hlúposť.

Tiež som si myslel, že pokuta je možná len 28+1. (možno máš pravdu- ja sa nehádam- je to asi možné)

Ale, z tohto čo píšeš my výchádza, že ja ako vodič musím nosiť zo sebou výtlačky z tacho a možno aj dovolenkáče spätne pár rokov dozadu. Čo keď my nejaký aktíny fízel bude dávať pokutu za to, že som pred štyrmi mesiacmi spravil 6:05 jazdy? (búračka-stau)

A ten príklad, čo sa stal tvojmu kolegovi je trochu divný. Keď auto preukázateľne nešoféroval, ako mohol dostať pokutu? Prečo to zobral na seba?
To je síce pekné, že firma pokutu zaplatila, ale záznam má on. Všetko sa to eviduje a v prípade nejakého-budúceho problému vo francúzku ho budú brať, ako už raz trestaného vodiča za vážny priestupok.
Stať sa to mohlo, mohli to na neho hodiť.. Ale je veľká chyba vodiča, že sa nebránil. (Na to je dobré byť pripravený a mať zaplatenú poistku-napr. das)

Nemusíš nosiť nič, len

Nemusíš nosiť nič, len 28 dní.
Ale v prípade problému by to mala vedieť vydokladovať firma. Ved preto sa robia tie zálohy tachografu, sťahovanie kariet,.....
Myslím, že keby Ti tam našli 6:05 súvislej jazdy........ tak by si to zaplatil aj po polroku. :-)

Ten príklad nieje divný ešte stále je to v riešení. Preukázateľne ho nešoféroval, len to nevedel ON na mieste preukázať. Dokazuje to teraz na tých súdoch a dokazuje to aj firma. Nestalo sa to hneď po jeho dovolenke, takže ani dovolenkový nemal. Bolo to už v dobe keď nemusel mať dovolenkový list.
Zober to takto, ideš na aute ako on, niekto jazdil na tom predtým bez karty ako to dokážeš pri kontrole, že si to nebol Ty ? Ved ked nieje karta v tachografe, tak ??
Stále to je v riešení.
DAS ja neverím, to je len reklama medzi vodičmi a tie povedačky parkoviskové. Ja viem o par prípadoch, keď nepohli ani prstom.

Po 28 dnoch NESMIES ma pri

Po 28 dnoch NESMIES ma pri sebe vytlačok na dokumentovanie činnosti. Mne našli baguni po 32 dnoch a aj to mi pripočitali ako nedostatok. Ževraj musiš potom ten vytlačok odovzdať na firmu, lebo musiš pri sebe nosiť original. A mi sme na firme nechavali kopiu.

pokuta

niesom múdrejší s tých vašich odpovedí..

Prečo pokuta za 6:05? - normálna nemecká stau, spravený výtlačok...

Prečo by som mal veriť, že moja firma niečo za mňa vydokladuje? Tachografy u nás sťahoval debil čo nevedel ani zapnúť kalkulačku. Veriť, že správne stiahne tachograf, presunie to do pc a ešte aj archivuje je ...

Výtlačky z tachografu som vždy po mesiaci vyhadzoval, staré dovolenkáče sú niekde doma medzi starými papiermi.

Ale, začnem si odkladať aj staré výtlačky a aj so starými dovolenkáčmi to budem nosiť zo sebou. Sťahujem si pre seba aj kartu.

To, že ti bagúni: ("Mne našli baguni po 32 dnoch") robili problémi verím. Ale, prečo by si to nemal mať zo sebou fakt nechápem.

Das mám, ešte som ju nepoužil-tak neviem.

odpoved na prispevok

Zdravim Vas Truckeri.Ja len zasnem nad Vasimi argumentami,ja som povinny mat dolozit 28 dni a tym to haslo,este sa mi nestalo aby sa bagun,alebo zabozrut zaujimal pri kontrole o priestupky napr pred mesiacom.A to soferujem len 26 rokov.Dokonca ani aktivnych poliakov to nezaujima.Je pravda,ze raz na mna hungar skusl ze pred rokom som mal prekrocenu jazdu o 30min,ale slusne som ho poslal do teplych krajov.Co sa tyka dovolenkovych listov mam pri sebe asi za tri roky stare,ved firma ma original ulozeny,preco by som ho mal vracat do firmy.
Je sice prevda,ze ja som len sofer,to Truckeri maju asi ine predpisy a skusenosti.
Prajem siroke drogi a polne gumy.Dedo z budky

Bagun mi to takto

vysvetlil: 28 dni musiš mat pri sebe original toho dovolenkoveho. Po 28 dnoch musis dovolenkovy zaslat na firmu, kde sa musi archivovat este niekolko rokov. A ked oni najdu pri tebe stare dovolenkove listky tak uz vedia ze tam nieco nesedi

Keď je to normálne, tak

Keď je to normálne, tak tak jazdi a aj si to zaplať. Normálne je jazda do 4:30h. Ak jazdíš, tak dobre vieš, že všetci čo im to nevyšlo stoja niekde na boku.
TY si tam na to, aby si to mal v poriadku a máš si jazdu naplánovať. A na mieste ak sa niečo takéto stane, ako STAU, tak "doladiť" na mieste činu.
Jazdím roky a ešte sa mi nestalo, aby som mal cez 6h jazdy pre STAU v Nemecku. A v Nemecku som stále. Za posledné 3 roky by mi nenašli NIČ na karte okrem nejakej tej 90km/h na diaľnici, kedže je povolené 80 a tolerované 86. DÁ SA TAK JAZDIŤ.
Je to o Tvojom jazdení "na hrane" a o tom, že .... kua dnes mi to nevydalo...... čo teraz? Veď čo ........ vytlačím, vypíšem ....... odrbem.
Lenže takto to NEFUNGUJE (to je komunistická morálka z východného bloku a to Nemci nepoznajú), resp. funguje LEN do kontroly. Veď skús vystúpiť pri BAG kontrole s hrsťou natlačených takýchto lístkov. VEĽA ŠŤASTIA. :-)

to nebudem komentovať :))

o mojom jazdení vieš hovno.. prečítal som si teraz pár tvojich príspevkov a sú priamo úmerné kvalite tohto fóra :))

Až sa rozum zastavuje...

Nechápem! Najprv tu nariekaš, že jak ta poj... baguni za jazdu vyše 6h a ak ti to niekto skritizuje tak nadávaš na úroveň tohto fóra. Nehovor že sa ti nedalo "odblikať" na krajnici 45min!

Ak si jasnovidec tak to

Ak si jasnovidec tak to odblikaš, lebo vieš že sa to za 45 min. nerozbehne. Ale čo keď sa to rozbehne?????????

???

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