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Zaujímal nás proces údržby ciest v zimnom období a tak sme zodpovedným položili zopár otázok. Odpovedal šéf spoločnosti, ktorá sa stará približne o sedemdesiat percent zimnej údržby komunikácií I a II. triedy v hlavnom meste.
1. Na koho „pokyn“ vyrážajú vozidlá do terénu?
Naše vozidlá a pracovníci vychádzajú na požiadavku z dispečingu, ktorý má magistrát zriadený na oddelení cestného hospodárstva, ktoré monitoruje situáciu v celom meste. Na základe zistení nahlasujú zásah na jednotlivých rajónoch, prípadne celého mesta. Podľa požiadavky musíme do 30 min od nahlásenia vyraziť na údržbu jednotlivých rajónov.
2. Podľa čoho sa určuje, kedy vyraziť na cesty?
Väčšinou dispečing reaguje na podrobné predpovede počasia, majú kamerový systém po celom meste, prípadne vyrážajú na podnet dopravného podniku, ktorý situáciu neustále monitoruje.
3. Koľko je v prevádzke vozidiel?
Na údržbu ciest je použitých približne 40 sypačov na asi 420 km ciest + mosty a to vo viacerých pruhoch.
4. Aký je spôsob údržby ciest?
Na jednotlivé rajóny sú určené vozidlá a ak je celomestský zásah tak sa do 30 minút od nahlásenia začínajú robiť jednotlivé úseky ciest. K tomu treba prirátať nejaký presun na daný úsek – rajón, čo je približne 15 minút. Je to nastavené tak, aby sa dali tieto úseky upraviť do 3 hodín od začatia zásahu. Samozrejme väčšina rajónov je v jednom pruhu. Pri viacpruhových komunikáciách sa upravuje najprv len jeden pruh a až následne prichádza k rozširovaniu. Hlavné ťahy sa upravujú v dvoch pruhoch.
Na väčšinu komunikácií sa používa ako posypový materiál zvlhčená posypová soľ. Na mosty a kopcovité terény a miesta v ochranných pásmach sa využíva ekologickejší materiál.
5. Často sa stretávam s otázkami ľudí, že videli vozidlo so zdvihnutou radlicou, pričom cesty boli pod snehom. Predpokladám, že sa jednalo o „technické presuny“.
Tu ste si odpovedal sám, naozaj je to z dôvodu, že vozidlo vychádza z nejakého miesta - je to len prejazd. Mesto je rozdelené do viacej častí a o údržbu sa stará viac stredísk, rozdelených do rajónov.
6. Ako prebieha práca vodičov, sú školení?
Služba je nepretržitá, vodiči sa menia po smenách. Vodiči sú pred zimou zaškolený na jednotlivé úseky a konkrétnu techniku. Jedná o skúsených vodičov s dlhoročnou praxou.
7. Ako sa riešia krízové situácie a napríklad neprejazdné úseky ciest?
Riešia sa priebežne a väčšinou rýchlo, napr. pri závejoch sa použije fréza prípadne ťažký pluh, vyššia dávka posypového materiálu a podobne.
Cestári a pracovníci zimnej údržby vykonávajú to, čo vedenie mesta, obce alebo samosprávneho kraju predpíše. Ak sa vyčlení dva krát toľko prostriedkov na údržbu a norma začiatku výjazdu bude nastavená lepšie ako teraz, na cestárov si ani nespomenieme.
No nebolo by pre bezpečnosť cestnej premávky lepšie, keby boli vozovky posypané už pred prvým spádom snehu? Keby sa prvý zásah robil skôr ako, keď je na vozovke viac ako 5cm snehu? Možno by vodiči kamiónov neboli pravidelne rukojemníkmi „niekoho“ a nestáli sedemnásť hodín na Donovaloch. Možno by doprava mohla byť bezpečnejšia a matka troch detí, ktorá prišla o život pred pár dňami mohla žiť! Tieto otázky však treba položiť „vyššie“ ako do garáží cestárov.
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Važeny dávno sa tu nic nenapísalo o cestároch a mne neda si aspoň tu troska uľavit.
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Je to super napísané, jednostranné. Chemický posyp v Nemecku, Taliansku sa robí pri poklese teploty pod 1 - 2 stupne vtedy, keď nasleduje sneženie. Predpovede počasia na pár h. sú všade presné. Len riadiaci pracovníci spia na... Chemický posyp na ujazdený sneh má minimálnu účinnosť... A v neposlednom rade často prvá jazda "posypača" je bez posypu a so zdvihnutou radlicou. Úspora nafty pre vodiča! Tak páni začať treba zhora a hlavne dohľad nad prístupom k práci...
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No robím u cestárov 4 a pol roka - u podniku, ktorý zriadil VUC Trenčín .
Moja škoda 706 - pyšná s kabínou LIAZ - má 35. rokov !!!!!!!!!!!!! Nádstavba zimnej udržby, kde sa v lete vozí horuca obalená asfaltová zmes je hrdzavá ako stará líška.
Ked potrebuješ žiarovku alebo posratú poistku - musíš spálenú odovzdať ........................
Prezutie pneumatík - ručne - lebo treba šetriť a už sa na zimných jazdí aj v lete......
Ak máš defekt - koleso rozoberieš - je klasické s dušou.....
no nafúkať z auta sa nedá - nemám plnič pneu v systéme .
Na benzínke slovnaftu, kde tankujeme, nenafukaš na 750 kPa, na Shelke sa dá,ale ked tam netankuješ, ako tam budeš fukať velke koleso, ked nemáš kryt ??????????
Kto videl aku paseku narobí vystrelená obruč - vie o čom hovorím .
Motor pomocného pohonu je tuším ešte zo Škody 1202 STW ....
Autá stoja pod širákom, od vlani máme dielňu na dvore, kde sa zmestí jedna Liazka aj s radlicou .
Robíš iba najnutnejšie veci, ktoré si vieš zaobstarať - sice niekedy v krajnoim prípade sa dielec kúpi, ale to povačšine musíš do Prievidze, tam je vrchnosť .......
Celý proces - Ty povieš, ak vieš, čo treba - alebo približne čo nejde - vedúcemu na dvore- ten vedúcemu dopravy v Prievidzi - potom uradníčka dá požiadavku na podnik do Trenčína a potom ........
občas to vyjde.
Potrebuješ olej - motorový / hydraulický - treba doviezť z Prievidze - 32 km................................... lebo sa nakúpilo niečo vrajlacnejšie v sudoch .
Podla najnovšej metodiky sa už pri teplote pod minus 10 stupňov nesmú ani pretáčať - máme síce nemrznúcu zmes, ale ked máš vyjsť z dvora, ak začne snežiť - musíš sa poriadne snažiť.
Znížili administratívne od stola spotreby nafty......
Náradie - vlastné,
aby som nezabudol dieľňa je na stredisku v Prievidzi - jedna cesta 32 km.
Mohli by ste sa cez sezonu so mnou povoziť .
Cca dva roky dozadu mi policajti dávali fúkať - trošku som si posrandičkoval - skoro sa dvaja mladí oprskli, asi si mysleli, že som pil.....
Ked bol výsledok 0,00 promile - bolo to už v pohode - ale ked som im ponukol velký technický preukaz - zoberte si ho chlapci - bez pokuty mne - nech sa vozidlo odstaví .........
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O bojnickej STK by sa dali písať ódy.............................. nemôžem konkretizovať - je to žalovateľné.
Sám sa nakladáš - jazdíš po úseku, kde máš pridelené.
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Každý predsa vie - alebo by mal - najprv cesty 1. triedy - potom dvojky - a napokon trojky.
A na smolu - naše kopčeky - smer Skýcov je jedna dvojka a jedna trojka - aj ked tam jazdíme v podstate pravidelne -
doporučoval by som kamionistom nejazdiť zo Skýcova po ceste II / 511...................................
V najprudšom klesaní je možnosť pádu do rokliny - su tam síce značky, ale ked je snehová brečka a trošku prituhnutá - ideš ako na lyžiach .
Ja zidem dolu aj ked bude čistý lad, lebo si podsypem pod kolesá a spustím radlicu - ale mám občas malú dušičku.
A funkčnú motorovku - o retardéri sa Ti na Liazke môže snívať ............
Musím sa pochváliť, že naše cesty sú skoro vždy v poriadku - aj ked na niektorých rovinách posyp vynechám - lebo do korby sa zmestí max. 6. ton piesku so solou a treba najskor ošetriť najhoršie useky .
Vytiahnem dodávku UPSky zo záveja - naslubuje hory doly a druhý rok nekupil šampanské - a navyše sám som sa pritom šuchol do priekopy a trčal som tam hodinu a pol, pokial som sa vyhrabal - lopatou si nahádzal pod kolesá - odhádzal najskor závej...... vo vetre s rýchlosťou cca 90 km za hodinu..............
Nesťažujem si, len by si mal každý vodič uvedomiť , že pol hodinu po začiatku silnejšieho sneženia nemôžu byť dve posádky na všetkých cestách v rámci okresu Partizánske a napokon nikde na svete to nedokážu na celom území naraz, či do hodiny - dvoch.
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Vazeny kolega Julo. Jazdim uz viac rokov kamionom a zazil som uz vela na nasich aj zahranicnych cestach a musim sa priznat, ze neraz som si pozanadaval na cestarov. Ale chapem ta nakolko mam kamarata co tiez jazdi so solnickou, je to Tatra 815 ktora ma poctivych 28 rokov a za normalny podmienok by uz mala byt davno v srote. Je to hroza ze taketo strasidla este stale jazdia po nasich cestach a este horsie je ze v takych srotoch musia robit ludia. Je smutne ze panstvo sa este stale vie beztrestne nabalit na ukor ostatnych a o to smutnejsie je ze sa to okato deje aj v statnom sektore. Je to smutne ked peniaze na udrzbu nasich ciest ktora je potrebna hlavne koli ochrane zdravia a druhorado aj majetku sa neroby koli tomu ze prostriedky sa stratia povätsine uz pri rozdelovani pre jednotlive regiony a regiony z tych penazi zas pokryju zas ine potrebne veci ako napr. zvysenie starostovskych platov a odmeny pre regionalnych poslancov a na podobne nezmysly a na cesty uz jednoducho neostane. Ved zatial este stale plati ze vodic neprisposobil jazdu stavu a povahe vozovky a je stale zodpovedny za vsetky skody ktore sebe alebo inemu svojou jazdou sposobyl tak naco si s tym robit tazku hlavu. A Vas chlapi v tych tisic rocnych solnickach skutocne obdivujem a skladam pred Vami klobuk ze este stale najdete odvahu sadnut do tych kamikadze strojov a snazite sa aspon akotak udrzat tie nase nestastne cesty.
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